please tell us, what's your take on this latest round of negotiations? >> seems to me in order to solve the difficult issues and problems, parties need to meet and discuss the matters. in this sense, ulan bator meeting this time was at least one step forward. in addition, the meeting decided to continue discussions later on and also the meeting covered a wide range of issue, including most difficult or perhaps abductions. >> so there was meaning to this meeting. what do you think is north korea's motivation to continue a dialogue with japan? they have been silent for quite a number of years. >> it is four years. it seems to me there were two reasons behind the stance of north korea. one is the new regime of kim jong-un, was just one years old, needed to improve living conditions of the people. to that end, they wanted -- they may have wanted to have better relations with japan. that's one reason. the second reason for north korea diplomatically, the united states is a most important country. they would like to have relations, encounters with the united s